Making friends isn’t always easy. We revisit host Peter O’Dowd’s conversation with psychologist and University of Maryland professor Marisa G. Franco about the struggles of making friends as an adult and tips for meeting someone new.

And, many lab-bred chimpanzees are living in sanctuaries that cannot afford to care for them without additional help. Rachel Fobar, a National Geographic investigative reporter who examined this dilemma, joins us.

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